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Extremely very confined engine bay lengthwise. yeah, had actually already figured that out ... it was a tongue in cheek post, that I didn't explain ... my bad In reply to spitfirebill: I included that point since when I had to discover a replacement 4.9 for my F150, I needed to go with every one in every junkyard in South Jacket to find one that had not been sludged up truly badly.
Bernie: Which is a much better van, while we're going to speak about a couple of issues of these vans, however I I'm clearly not going to come out and say one is better than the other. Bernie: Well, they're essentially the exact same automobile.
They appear to be a little bit a lot more utilized in that area, yet, you recognize, those are several of the usages, yet they're essentially the exact same group of car. Mark: So, well, let's begin with engines then. What issues do you see in between these two vehicles? Bernie: Yeah. So allow's speak about engine and really simply to define that the model years, we're going to begin with 2000 and up, you understand, I mean, these vans have been around for a long period of time.
And, you know, for a version of a Chevy van has actually been around because, you know, around that time as well. Because 2000, I mean, Ford's, you can obtain these with V6 engines or V8s.
You recognize, Fords, and most of them come with the Triton V8. There's a great deal of problems with these engines. In the earlier 2000 ignition system with blow to these engines, since they didn't have enough threading in the spark plug, which caused issues. And often that would certainly occur when you could be in a 15 passenger bus rising a hillside with a load of individuals and all of an abrupt boom, an ignition system bulges and you're stranded.
So if you're purchasing anything from most likely 08 and more recent, you're not mosting likely to have that type of ignition system issues. Other locations though, with the Fords that we see, consumption manifolds will certainly leak, they'll establish coolant leakages. It's a plastic manifold usually you have to change the entire thing.
And there's some problems, the Ford engine I need to say in their favour, since I'm talking about problems, it's an extra innovative engine. Overhead web cam, so you're getting more power and efficiency out of the engine than you would on a Chevy, which is a simpler style with push rods.
They're simply truly quite great, durable, strong engines. You understand, being a van, naturally, you recognize, doing any type of service on them is a lot more challenging because you've got to eliminate that cover and enter maintenance in weird methods. Points like trigger plugs last a dreadful long time, so they do not require to be replaced really usually.
Mark: Can you purchase these vans with diesel engines? The Fords have actually had diesels in them for a lengthy time, like method back before the 2000 model year.
You recognize, that's still offered. If you're a say, I do not understand, I'm just going to claim a plumbing professional and you have actually got like a whole lot of heavyweight inside your van and you're hauling a trailer behind it, that would be a really excellent use of having a diesel powered van.
In all justness, it seems like the diesels are, they seem to have much less problems in vans than they carry out in the trucks. Most likely because they aren't functioned so hard, but when points happen, they're actually costly to repair. We have actually got a lot of videos and info concerning diesels, particularly the Fords.
You truly require to think two times regarding obtaining a diesel in a van. That's my suggestion. Mark: Yeah, so in shape for function, make sure that you're fitting the engine that you're acquiring for the function that you're endeavouring to accomplish. Bernie: Yeah, precisely. And I will claim, Chevy is practically restricted to V8 engines, yet Ford has a V 10 engine also, which is a monstrous gas guzzling engine.
If you're, and once again, we're just talking regarding kind of a directly, routine freight van here. Look at your purpose, your use, exactly how much weight you're hauling and that'll help you make the decision.
Something that we have not spoken about right here is what kind of van. These vans are, and it depends on what design, they're readily available ever from half lot to one load chassis and actually a few of the cutaway vans are actually a lot more sturdy, like, you understand, 450s and 550s for say the Fords.
But normally the drive trains, you know, I locate them to be practically equal. Mark: So let's talk concerning steering and suspension. Just how do they contrast? Bernie: You understand, I'm going to offer the edge to Ford on this. And the factor for Ford is that it's a little simpler.
There's less guiding linkage entailed in a Chevy. Do Chevy's, however it seems, and the Chevy's most likely last a little bit longer than the Fords, however the, you recognize, the guiding link is a lot less challenging, so there's much less parts and much less products to put on out.
The trip in a Ford is most likely a little much more truck like however I don't know if you 'd really ever really observed a difference between the 2. It seems like their parts are a little tougher on the Ford than the Chevy. Mark: What concerning brakes? Bernie: Brakes are basically the very same, yet I will state that it looks like with Fords, the way they develop their brake calipers, that they have a tendency to need to be changed nearly every time you do a brake work.
Somehow, they appear to last for one brake task. And afterwards a lot of times we take the brakes off and claim, Oh, the dust boots torn, and so the caliper needs to be changed. I think on a Ford and you can expect to invest a little bit more cash on brakes and you can on a Chevy.
And I can, I'm going to swerve back before the 2000 version years, there were some Chevy vans that had really negative doors. I suggest, the gliding doors were crap, you recognize, actually terribly built. Actually, I would state that if you are even looking at something older, it seems like Chevy and GMC vans actually and their vehicles as a whole really took a jump forward in high quality around the 2000 version year, due to the fact that there was a lot of things where the brakes as an example would not last long in any way.
If we're looking at the 2000 more recent, I suggest, I would certainly say they're both possibly quite much equivalent in quality, fit and finish, you recognize, some of the passenger vans, of program we'll have nicer consultations than the freight vans. I can not say that one of them stands out to me a little bit even more than the other.